Photo HRS 2171 showing the 2 Ken,s in the foreground , the figures at the back of the photo are myself Phil Webster stood up looking towards the photographer & i think Bernard Isherwood, I was a fitter at the company from July 1969 from age 16 as an apprentice qualified in 1973 and left company in July 1977. I then went to U.M.P Venesta in salford until 1985.